INTERVIEW: Moonchild Sanelly

Having released her incredible third album, Full Moon, at the beginning of this year, innovative South African artist Moonchild Sanelly has been making waves with her unique, empowering genre-defying creations and joyous live shows. Now, with collaborations with the likes of Self Esteem, Gorillaz and Little Simz under her belt, as well as wowing UK audiences at Glastonbury Festival and appearances on Later… With Jools Holland last year, she’s ready to take the world by storm with this latest trailblazing solo offering and her immense, fearless attitude. 

Ahead of a run of tour dates with Self Esteem in the autumn and an appearance at my most favourite festival, Deer Shed, this summer, I was lucky enough to chat to Moon just as she was getting her costumes together before jetting off to Dublin to headline the Grand Social earlier this week. Her styling and aesthetic are a big part of her performances and image as an artist, she tells me, as she explains that she designs and makes her own outfits – “Having the skill to see it, think it, sketch it, make it, advise on it, has been really useful. Having the power to just create my art… All these things contribute to me being a musician and independent artist.” Moon actually studied fashion before going on to become a songwriter, and she continues to put the skills she learned to use when going out on tour – “I know all the different shows I have coming up, and know all the different coloured costumes I want for the different days, and know all the different stage vibes that I want. It’s going to be a fun one!” And these skills can come in very handy when on the road, too, as she discovered on a recent trip to Germany when her sewing machine broke and one of her outfits was left unfinished – “I literally used safety pins to put it together. I come from doing stuff by hand when I didn’t have the money for the fastest machine, so I had to tap back into that and got my safety pins, and nobody knew – it was a great dress, I killed it! It’s something I do on the regular – I was able to save myself, even though my machine had broken.”

This notion of being able to ‘save herself’ seems incredibly important to Moon; whilst having always been supported in her love of music by her family, and particularly her brother who’s a producer, she prides herself on her independence and the power that comes with not having to rely on anyone else: “When you’re doing you, it’s just really effortless; no one can correct you or incorrect you. There’s no right formula. Not even your mum who fed you formula has a formula for you.” Discussing the sense of freedom that can come with being involved in all parts of the creative process, she tells me that she also likes not having a permanent full band, and decided very early on in her career that she did not want to have to rely on other people: “I didn’t want to depend on someone who wasn’t as hungry as me. I didn’t want them to slow me down.” So, she did it on her own, motivated by the liberation to just create whatever she wants, whenever she wants – “I don’t have to wait for anyone… I can literally just do it.”

Of course, this does not mean that Moon doesn’t value the creative input of other people. An example of someone she loves working with is Johan Hugo, the producer of Full Moon, who she had been determined to work with after being impressed by another of his artists at a festival in Europe that she was playing with Gorillaz. Her manager made contact, and – after discovering that Hugo had already wanted to work with Moon, had many mutual connections, and had previously worked with some of her favourite artists (M.I.A, Santigold) – the wheels were set in motion to work together: “We were meant for each other!”, Moon gushes. This feeling of things being ‘meant to be’ seems to be a key theme of the new album: “Full Moon symbolises a real full circle moment for how I have envisioned my art, and how it should be affecting the world. Everything just seems to have come together.” Working with Hugo, Moon was confident that he’d be able to sync the sound in the way that she wanted, to “connect the music with whatever the story is.” She goes on to describe how he was able to create a safe space for her to work, “away from the hustle and bustle”, so that she was really able to tap out and tune into her vulnerable side – “… it just allowed me to open up, without feeling naked or uncomfortable. I just let whatever emotions were evoked by the music come to life. I wasn’t scared of anything that was happening.” However, whilst Full Moon does offer “an insight into (my) sensitive side”, into the “roots” of Moonchild Sanelly, she is keen to emphasise that it still offers that liberating, empowering and danceable spirit that she has become known for: “I will never let it end in tears, because I will always liberate…”

Discussing the recording process, Moon tells me that there was no specific plan – “I just told stories and it was comfortable and I just let it happen… We didn’t have a manual, we just knew we wanted to make fire.” And I think this really shines through when listening to Full Moon; a real sense of freedom emanates throughout, an openness to being both vulnerable and powerful all at once. This stillness and contentment that Moon felt whilst recording the album differs from her experience with her last two records; recording her 2015 debut Rabulapha!, she was travelling around the world working with different people, whilst 2022’s Phases was recorded during lockdown, “…pretty much on my own, just being sent beats, and I hadn’t met half the people that were producing it.” So, she tells me, “…this one was different because I was with the one producer, making music together, and going with the feelings.” 

As well as the fantastic creative partnership she has with Hugo, Moon has enjoyed collaborating with many other artists over the years; with each different relationship unique in the way that they worked together. One of the people she’s worked with most recently is GIHE favourite Self Esteem: “I call my collaboration with Self Esteem like elite energy because it was so effortless. We were just having conversations, and then they were the song.” Going on to talk about their closeness and the cathartic nature of writing certain songs together, Moon elaborates: “We just have things in common – like being independent artists, and dealing with mother fuckers, and so that’s how ‘Big Man’ came to be.” Similarly, ‘Plain Sight’ (from Self Esteem’s recent album, A Complicated Woman) was inspired by negative press that Moon had been receiving that she did not feel able to write about: “So, when I was with Rebecca, I was able to write for her because we were going through the same thing but in different spaces and times, which was super emotional. We talked about all our shit, and then we cried.”

With other artists, however, the process has been very different. Whilst featuring on ‘My Power’ with legends like Beyoncé and Tierra Whack in 2019 merely involved sending over recordings of her music to someone she had not met, with artists like Little Simz “…it was just a really chilled vibe”. Having been something that Moon had always wanted to do, and having met Little Simz through her work with Gorillaz previously, finally getting to properly work together on a track (‘Flood’) was a dream come true. Whoever she’s working with, Moon tells me she has one goal – “… my approach is always to deliver”. She is determined to create her art freely, on her own terms, whether that’s solo or collaborating with others. 

This freedom of being able to create is something Moon feels passionately about, not just for herself but for others, and is something that can often be difficult for people living in South Africa. Reflecting on this and the way that things are gradually starting to change, she tells me that “social media’s definitely contributed to young people being able to share and create music without gatekeepers…” Young people being able to have more access to music without being attached to labels and managers enables a sense of freedom that has not always been possible, and this is something that Moon is grateful for: “You upload music, get lots of hits, are able to gig. That’s how it happens, and it’s beautiful to watch.” Although there’s still a long way to go, seeing more artists from South Africa being able to tour internationally, and with more opportunities being open to them, leaves Moon hopeful for the future. 

Touring internationally is thankfully something Moon has been able to do, and is going to be doing more of later this year, with appearances booked at various festivals including personal favourite Deer Shed in Yorkshire. She describes how she’s feeling about this with one word: “EXCITED!”. I share this excitement as I tentatively admit that I haven’t had the pleasure of seeing her live before and ask what fans can expect: “I KILL. We’re going to run out of body bags. The Freedom Demon shall be evoked.” You’ve been warned, Deer Shedders – prepare for a truly euphoric and empowering experience in which you’ll “own your body and your existence, and know who you are. You’ll just feel everything.” I can’t wait. Despite being excited about performing, however, Moon isn’t as much of a fan of the “whole hay and squatting thing” at UK festivals and tells me that her one requirement is “a flushing toilet, please and thank you.” I empathise with this sentiment and encourage Moon to book her camping in the lovely glamping of Tangerine Fields at the festival, where there are lovely flushing loos and even showers and hairdryers on offer. 

Moon is no stranger to UK festivals, however. Last year, she wowed crowds at Glastonbury with not one, not two, but ten live appearances there – “… it was the most shows we’ve ever done in one weekend”, she beams, “It was gorgeous. It was ridiculous. It was epic.” Not surprisingly, named as one of the highlights of the weekend, it seems like it stands out as a really special and memorable experience for Moon as she cheekily reflects: “We worked our butts off, and we shook them too!”

Being in the position to tour and perform to thousands of people is not something Moon takes for granted as she recognises the challenges that people from marginalised communities face in the industry, and the stigma that can so often be placed on certain groups – “Like, with femme presenting women who are queer, they think sex. And with butch presenting or more masculine people, they can’t be soft.” Discussing this further, Moon reflects on the evolution of Little Naz, how he was “palatable” for the homophobes, “…but then, when he came out, he lost a lot of followers, because you can’t be flamboyant”. This specific stigma surrounding gay men in music is something she has noticed is still not being commercially accepted, but “I feel like we, as women, have got more of an advantage, because we already know the formula of how to get the market.” However, Moon acknowledges that not everyone has her confidence – “I have a lot of famous friends that don’t want to share their sexuality… And this comes from a fear of rejection.” This fear is something that sadly seems to be prevalent amongst queer artists, and is absolutely justified considering the political climate at the moment; the hate speech, the way that the industry “seems open to abusers, to those violating other peoples’ rights, but not to homosexuality…” If we are to move forwards from marginalised communities being more than a “niche” and being more commercially accepted, Moon feels that representation is incredibly important: “With regards to my being queer. With regards to my being a successful black artist. With regards to whatever the world sees me as. I bring that magic. All the different faces that I represent. And I do it proudly and loudly. And fearlessly. Fuck fear.” Whilst others may have seen what Moon has achieved as impossible, she has succeeded and continues to move forwards with passion, determination and joy. “It takes people like us to shine the light”, she clarifies, and shine she does, as a beacon of what can be achieved. If aspiring artists were to be able to see more people like her, to see themselves represented, I feel this could really help to inspire, to motivate, and to reassure; to take away some of that fear that holds us back. I’m sure that when aspiring creatives see Moon being her truly authentic self up on stage, on TV, hear her on the radio, this will empower and ignite that spark in them.

As I thank Moon for her time, and for being such an inspiration and joyous presence in the industry, she assures me that she’s going to continue moving forwards and creating, innovating: “This shit is my life. I don’t want to be confined, I don’t want to be still. Every other job I’ve had, I’ve lost or quit. But now I’m in the right place.”


Huge thanks and love to Moonchild Sanelly for speaking with me. I cannot wait to be taken away in a body bag after the immense experience of seeing her live at Deer Shed festival in July! Tickets still available here.

Mari Lane
@mari_getinherears

Photo Credit: Grace Pickering

INTERVIEW: Kate Webster of Deer Shed Festival

Last year I attended Deer Shed Festival for the first time, and I promised myself it would the be the first time of many as it was such a glorious weekend! Having not been to a festival for a few years, I was keen to find one that was as lovely as possible, and suited my needs of being perhaps a little older than the average festival-goer without missing out on any of the best new music. I wanted a festival that was inclusive, chilled-out, family friendly, and of course hosting plenty of amazing female and non-binary bands and artists… And Deer Shed more than delivered on all fronts.

Highlighting a real family-friendly focus, whilst hosting an incredible range of exciting new artists, the North Yorkshire based Deer Shed perfectly filled the festival-shaped-void I’d been feeling, and – with highlights from last year including Self Esteem, CMAT, Straight Girl, Nadine Shah and Denise Chaila – I cannot wait to return in a couple of weeks.

We caught up with festival director Kate Webster to talk more about Deer Shed’s roots, its ethos and inclusive line-up, some of the most special Deer Shed moments of years gone by, and more… Have a read below, and have a listen to our special Deer Shed 2023 playlist, featuring some of our personal faves who’ll be playing at the festival this year, at the bottom of this feature!

Hi Kate! 2023 will be Deer Shed’s 13th year – hopefully lucky for some! Can you tell us a bit about what Deer Shed is all about, and how it all started out?
Deer Shed Festival is a boutique music, arts & science festival based in North Yorkshire parkland, aimed at families who don’t want a dumbed down experience just because you have kids in tow.

What strikes me about Deer Shed and makes it stand out against other festivals at the moment is the good gender balance of the line up – was there an intentional and specific decision to do this, or does it just naturally pan out that way?  
I booked the festival up until our 11th year and initially it happened unconsciously just because of the music I like. After a while, we decided it make it a policy of the festival that our gender split should be 50/50 and also at least one of the headlines needs to be female and/or non binary. It’s been great – because of our size we have been able to give some deserving acts the chance of a festival headline. Can you believe that we gave Goldfrapp they’re first festival headline in 2018?! I find that bonkers!

Over the last 12 years, you’ve hosted some amazing bands and artists including Self Esteem, Nadine Shah, CMAT, Kae Tempest, Anna Calvi, Big Joanie, Ezra Furman, The Go Team! and Honeyblood, but has there been a particular set that stands out for you as a personal highlight over the years?
Kae Tempest for sure. It was 2017, they were promoting Let Them Eat Chaos which is a phenomenal album, and it was also their first festival headline. The actual performance was extra special to me and many of the audience that evening.  The skies darkened, the rain poured and in the distance, lightning flashed. It meant, for those who stayed (and a lot did), the whole experience was electrifying and so moving. I still get shivers now when I think about the power of that evening. It was like nature knew what the backdrop should be for that performance.


And this year you’ve got some GIHE faves playing (The Big Moon, Dream Wife, This Is The Kit, English Teacher, Sprints…). Curating such awesome line ups must be a lot of work – how do you normally go about it? Is it all based on bands/artists that have got in touch with you over the year? 
We’ve had a booker for the last couple of years – I think Covid meant the job had got harder and I needed a break. It was also a good time to get some fresh ears to help. However, as festival director, I still want input and I think next year we’ll bring it in house again. We generally start with a wish list and play fantasy festival which is great fun; the whole Deer Shed team are into music, so everyone chips in and has suggestions of who they have seen perform during the year or might have new music coming out. We talk to friends in the industry and agents, so see what’s going on. Practically speaking, we only start making offers in Autumn, so that’s the best time to contact us. We must get the headlines in place before moving down the bill which can take some time.

And for any upcoming bands/artists looking to apply for festivals next year, do you have any tips?
Start building a live following in your local venues. Practice to become a great performer and engage with your audience. A festival crowd is different to your own show – you have one song to win them over! Whilst a lot of artists get an online following and good streaming numbers, it doesn’t always translate to live.

There seems to be a definite focus on making the festival as family-friendly as possible, and when I was there last year it just had the nicest, most relaxed vibes I’ve ever experienced at a festival! What inspired the idea to do this, and stand out from other festivals in this way? 
When Oliver and I decided to give it a go, it wasn’t long after festivals like Latitude & Camp Bestival had started and there was no one doing anything similar in the north. I couldn’t see live music like I had done because of family commitments, and many events near by didn’t offer me the chance to see great music and have the kids entertained. So, Deer Shed was really built for me & my friends initially – music fans who happen to have kids. It turned out there were other people like me!

Do you feel much has changed over the last few years in the music industry’s treatment of new artists, particularly female and non-binary artists? 
I think there is more awareness of mental health and agents/managers are now more mindful over booking artists. I also hope the idea of booking a tokenistic female/non-binary act has come to an end… But I do still worry that some young female artists are led a certain way on how they present and what they wear. There seem to be some genres of music where I’m not convinced that a stylist/photographer/label didn’t have a brief to come back with a certain look.  

Finally, as we’re a new music focused site, are there any particular new bands or artists you’d recommend we check out?
I’m totally excited that we managed to book Grove this year. I know they’re not that new but their energy, style & music is infectious. So good live! I’ve not seen Pet Snake live yet, but I’m loving the Liverpool based artist – alt folk/indie at its best, just great songwriting.  

Massive thanks to Kate for answering our questions, and for organising such a stellar festival year on year! Deer Shed Festival 2023 is taking place from 28th – 30th July and headliners include The Delgados, The Comet Is Coming, The Big Moon and This Is The Kit – more information here.

Get ready for the festival by listening to our playlist of brilliant bands playing this year here:

Track Of The Day: Human Interest – ‘Mixing Paint’

Having received wide-spread acclaim for their debut EP, Desire Paths, earlier this year, and wowing crowds at shows supporting legends like Self Esteem and Dave Rowntree, London duo Human Interest have now shared an infectious new single.

Reflecting on the darkest crevices of the mind with a fizzing post-punk energy, ‘Mixing Paint‘ oozes the band’s trademark gritty allure as the sweeping power of Tyler Damara Kelly’s vocals ripple alongside atmospheric bass hooks, building with driving beats into a fiercely immersive anthem. Another single (following the utterly addictive ‘Cool Cats’) cementing Human Interest as my favourite new band right now without a doubt.

Of the track, the band explain:

What started off as a string of 1AM ramblings on my Notes app became the processing of deeply personal experience which happened late 2021. The whole ethos of the song is about analysing the dark crevices of the mind and turning it into something light-hearted, almost bigger than yourself… We wanted it to sound like being in a smoky underground cabaret when all of a sudden the roof is torn off to reveal Armageddon.

Mari Lane
@marimindles

Photo Credit: Dougie Chalmers

LIVE: Deer Shed Festival 2022 (Day 2: 30.07.22)

It’s been a while since I attended a festival… Obviously, there were so many cancellations throughout the last couple of years due the pandemic, and I missed out on 2019 as I was busy hosting my own (well, my wedding which I aimed to be as festival-like as possible). So, this year I was desperate to find one that was as lovely as possible and suited my needs of being perhaps a little older than the average festival-goer without missing out on any of the best new music. Sadly, the last festival I went to in 2018, and my favourite ever festival experience – Indie Tracks – did not survive Covid, and so I was looking for a replacement; something equally as inclusive, chilled-out, family friendly, and of course hosting plenty of amazing female and non-binary bands and artists. And then I came across Deer Shed… And it was just what I was after! Highlighting a real family-friendly focus, whilst hosting an incredible range of exciting new artists, the North Yorkshire based Deer Shed perfectly filled the festival-shaped-void I’d been feeling for the last few years.

Although the second day of Deer Shed got off to a rather damp start, this wasn’t going to dampen our spirits, with a day of such lush live music ahead of us. Kicking things off at the In The Dock stage, it’s a new discovery for me: the dreamy, ethereal scuzz of trio Honeyglaze. Delivering shimmering shoegaze-tinged soundscapes that build with a raw emotion, they leave me captivated and eager to hear more.

Our first outing to the Lodge Stage sees us treated to the majestic grace of Marianne Parish – aka Maja Lena. With her beautifully sweeping alt-folk musings propelled by resplendent vocals and exquisite layers of intricate instrumentation, her set offers a perfectly comforting shelter from the pouring rain outside.

Having enjoyed the joyous energy of London African collective Balimaya Project earlier today, we return to the main stage for Irish pop artist CMAT – one of the performances I’ve been most looking forward to this weekend, and she doesn’t disappoint. Taking to the stage to the sound of Shania Twain’s ‘Man, I Feel Like A Woman’ (just like ARXX at our gig last week!), she gleefully introduces herself – “Hi, it’s me – Shania Twain!” – as she’s welcomed by excited yelps from a front row of adoring young fans. And I feel a rush of comforting warmth come over me – seeing the pure elation in these young girls’ faces, just being in the presence of their heroine, brings me a lot of joy; the fact that they have a pop icon (though she labels herself a “country singer”) to look up to with as much humour, humility and empowering energy as CMAT – the unified warmth of Deer Shed and its family-friendly focus making it possible for these experiences to happen. And, as the set continues – complete with impromptu romantic dances between CMAT and her keyboardist, and Beyonce-inspired “pop show” manoeuvres – I find myself pretty much falling head over heels with the all the fun-filled charisma and joyous energy emanating from the stage, whilst singing along to tongue-in-cheek anthems such as ‘I Wanna Be a Cowboy’ and ‘Peter Bogdanovich’.

After some delicious ‘Phat Thai’ from vegan food stand ‘Earthworm Kitchen’, I’m ready for another Irish highlight of the weekend – Denise Chaila. Accompanied by two other rappers and a DJ on stage, Chaila immediately has the crowd fully immersed and singing along with her immense, gritty anthems. Propelled a swirling drive, she combines a tongue-in-cheek wit with poignant cultural references, whilst charming the crowd between songs – and even teaching us a bit of Irish Gaelic (and I realise I’ve been saying ‘Anseo’ wrong all this time…). Oozing a beautifully compelling energy as the unashamed confidence of her lyrics flows with ease, she creates a joyous atmosphere, which is only heightened when one of her crew launches (with care) into the crowd, much to the delight of the buoyant youngsters in the front rows who dance around him with glee. A truly memorable set that leaves me feeling elated and inspired.

Completing my run of epic pop icons, it’s time for Self Esteem on the main stage – a moment I’ve been looking forward to ever since becoming addicted to her Mercury Award nominated album Prioritise Pleasure last year. Welcomed by a sea of whoops from the adoring crowd as she takes to the stage accompanied by her entourage of fantastic dancers (one of whom is GIHE fave Seraphina Simone) and musicians, she immediately radiates a shimmering, vibrant charisma as she delivers a truly empowering set with a fierce emotion. Between moments of finding tears rolling down my cheeks whilst singing along to inspiring anthems such as ‘I Do This All The Time’, and grinning from cheek to cheek as she dedicates the set to her friend’s young daughter (who happens to be on the shoulders of her parents next to us), I’m utterly mesmerised by the magnificent performance. Not only is Self Esteem an incredible and thought-provoking songwriter, but her exquisitely choreographed set and glistening stage presence mark her out as a completely unique modern pop star.

Ending the day’s musical delights, we return to the Lodge Stage for the lilting Americana-tinged folk of Samantha Crain. Delivering her beautifully strummed melodies with a stirring warmth, the impassioned subtle power of her rich vocals flows with a captivating raw emotion. As Crain’s immersive lyrical storytelling emanates alongside twinkling hooks and a rustic charm, each offering graces the heartstrings with a comforting allure.

Thanks to Deer Shed for another wonderful day of live music! Stay tuned for our review of the third and final day of the festival!

Words: Mari Lane / @marimindles
Photos: Paul Dawes / @paullikesrobots