Introducing Interview: Kylie MacNaughton

Having recently come across Kylie MacNaugton through her distinctive guitar playing with Glasgow ‘weirdo art pop’ outfit Peter Cat, we were intrigued to find out more about what inspires her, her other musical projects (including rising dark electro band Mercy Girl), and how she feels the industry is for queer artists at the moment.

Following last year’s experimental and introspective album, Starchamber, Peter Cat have just shared a gloriously catchy new single ahead of a full UK tour this autumn. Find out more here and have a listen while you read all about Kylie below!

Hi Kylie, welcome to Get In Her Ears! Would you like to tell us a bit about yourself and what you’re currently up to
Okie dokie! I’m Kylie MacNaughton, a musician originally from Livingston in Scotland, now based in Glasgow. I play guitar and synth and “sing”. I love making big loud music with my friends and watching movies. Currently I’m trying to cool myself down in this heatwave (I’m not coping well)!.

How did you first get into creating music?
I have been playing guitar since I was nine or ten, mostly because I wanted to get Guitar Hero but got given a real guitar instead. I guess I got into actually writing music when, deep into my emo teenage years, I heard My Chemical Romance’s first record, I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love. There’s a certain scrappiness to it. Like, it really sounds like five people in a room playing music together, rather than this super polished production. It just hit me that I could be one of five people in a room playing music and make songs like this too – then I started playing in bands and now we’re here!

We initially crossed paths through your work in the gloriously other-worldly Glasgow collective Peter Cat. What’s it like being part of such a unique project?
Being part of Peter Cat is great fun! All of the songs have a unique vibe and their own challenges to performing them, so it’s always nice to have to be thinking on my feet whilst I’m playing. In terms of this coming about, Graham (Mr Peter Cat himself), had been performing under the name with various bands and as a solo project for while. It was shortly after he wrote his EP The Magus that Graham approached me about performing with him. The music was so much darker and stranger than he had written previously, so I was very excited to join.

Peter Cat released the glistening album Starchamber towards the end of last year – can you tell us a bit about the album and the process of recording it?
So what is Starchamber? Uh, I guess at its core it’s a record about apologising in some ways – about feeling guilty for existing and taking up space. But it’s also about atonement and trying to absolve this guilt. I suppose the maddening sound was trying to capture those feelings. There’s lyrical moments pulling from film as well, and specifically from characters that are in this state of apologia and guilt and depression. Anyway, philosophical ramble over – the actual process of recording was quite old school and intensive. We spent several months fleshing out and getting the songs tight, then two weeks in the studio. Just the four of us in the room at once, trying to capture that live chaos of the music.

Your guitar parts throughout the album really stand out, particularly on tracks like ‘Is That All There Is To A House On Fire?’ and ‘Down From The Mountain’ – what inspired this swirling glam-rock-tinged sound? And how do you generally go about writing parts that complement the rich lyrical storytelling so well?
Thank you! The three points I was pulling from the most whilst recording and writing this album was My Chemical Romance (lol), David Bowie’s Scary Monsters, and The Dillinger Escape Plan. So, I guess there was some weird intersection of glam and punk and noise and pop happening, which I think is how the album sounds in the end. In terms of writing, Graham would sometimes come in with ideas that were pretty fully formed, that I would just tweak to sound like me. Other times there would be sections with no guitar where I would be encouraged to improvise with only abstract prompting, like, “the solo needs to sound like the world is ending, and we’re taking off.” Ultimately, I think the parts ended up complementing the lyrical themes because I was going through a lot of similar emotions at the time. I was teetering on the precipice of coming out at this point, and I was overcome with guilt and shame and embarrassment for existing. I think being in that dark headspace at the time ended up in a roundabout way marrying up with a lot of what Graham was writing about.

Following the album, earlier this year Peter Cat released a special live EP, In And Out Of Glasgow and London: Peter Cat Live – what inspired the decision to release this collection?
We felt that Peter Cat live is a different experience from the recordings, especially with some of the tracks from The Magus which were recorded by Graham on his own during lockdown. So, we wanted people to have a little taste of that chaos at home.

And how is the experience of performing live with Peter Cat, and what can fans expect when coming along to see you?
Peter Cat live is like train that’s just about to come off the tracks but doesn’t quite. The people can expect the same songs they know, but with more energy and chaos and unsanded edges.

When you’re out on tour playing gigs, are there any particular essentials that you like to have with you to keep you going?
I think I travel quite light actually. I’m happy staring into space out the window of the van and listening to music and hanging out with my friends… But, I think maybe the only thing is that I don’t like my hair being “not right”, so I do always bring all the same shampoos and potions and goops I would use at home.

In addition to Peter Cat, you’re also a part of other musical projects GRAVELLE and Mercy Girl – are you able to tell us a bit about them and where we can find out more?
Mercy Girl is a dark electronic band, with songs that are meant to be cried to and danced to. It’s very danceable and moody and synth-driven. We’re playing all across the UK and Europe this year and next, so come along if can and crance (cry+dance)!. GRAVELLE is a project with myself and my partner that we always described as “Industrial Pop” – like equal parts Lady Gaga and Nine Inch Nails. It’s on a  bit of a hiatus at the moment, but we can’t be stopped, there will be more songs one day!

And how do you find balancing these different musical projects with work and life generally?
Hard, aha. I exist in a constant state of near burnout.

As we’re an organisation with a focus on supporting new and marginalised artists, I just wondered how you feel the industry is for them at the moment? And do you feel much has changed over the years in its treatment of female and queer artists?
I feel like things have definitely gotten better within the music scene in terms of its treatment of people. But I still feel like there’s such a long way to go, it’s very sadly still such a boys club. I’m so frequently the only queer person and only woman in the room. There’s often this palpable disrespect – or disgust even – that I feel from engineers or other bands at my presence. Though, things are improving and I get a lot less flack as a queer person than I have in the past; and that’s definitely thanks to folks like yourself who are platforming marginalised people and breaking apart that shell of machismo that is so pervasive in music.

And are there any other bands or artists that you’d recommend we check out at the moment?
Loads! Too many to count! There’s so many cool people making great music right now! I’m just going to list a bunch of new favourites – girls and gays only – so go listen okay! Model/Actriz, Mandy, Indiana, Mrs Frighthouse, Kopi Romantiko, Underscores, Hemlocke Springs, Guck, Aortarota, Gelli Haha, Ninajirachi.

Huge thanks to Kylie for answering our questions! Be sure to check out Peter Cat’s new single ‘Innocent Driver‘, as well as ‘crance’ to Mercy Girl and keeping your eyes peeled for more songs from GRAVELLE!

Introducing Interview: Breymer

Set to release their new album, When I Get Through, later this month, Minnesota born artist Sarah Walk – aka Breymer – creates sweeping indie-pop anthems, oozing a raw emotion and stirring heartfelt splendour. Exploring their relationship with gender and identity, the album marks the first since they recently changed their artist name – from Sarah Walk to the more androgynous Breymer – to reflect how they feel about themselves after their recent top surgery. Interweaving lush layered vocals and a shimmering textured musicality as it reflects on a personal journey of self-discovery with a stark honesty, it’s a truly exquisite collection.

We caught up with Breymer to find out more about the album, their live shows and being a queer artist in the industry. Have a read and watch the beautiful live video for latest single, ‘The Feeling (When I See You)‘, at the bottom of the article.

Hi Breymer! Welcome to Get In Her Ears! How are you doing today?
Hi there! I’m doing well thanks. Busy as ever preparing for these album release shows!

Are you able to tell us a bit about what initially inspired you to start creating music?
It was never really a decision, I just always found myself gravitating towards the piano writing my own songs. Even as a young kid, around four or five years old, I would refuse to practise piano learning other songs and would instead just sit there and put on performances of my own ideas. I always had this desire to create and share.

I love the raw stirring emotion and glistening musicality of your songs, but who would you consider to be your main musical influences?
I grew up listening to a lot of different music. I like to think of them as inspirations and not influences so much, or at least not intentionally. When I was young I loved pop and rock music — Hanson was my first album (don’t hate on it, that debut LP rules) Third Eye Blind, the Goo Goo dolls… I loved that kind of classic pop melodic sensibility. Then as I got a little older I started to love R&B and hip hop, like Usher and Jay Z, I think it was the rhythm that really was mesmerising to me, and then that turned into folk music like Paul Simon and Joni Mitchell as I got a little older. The last in that core discovery period of my youth was probably indie bands, like Radiohead, Fiona Apple and Phoenix. I like to think there are specific elements of each of those genres that still inspire my music today.

You recently announced the release of your upcoming album When I Get Through, which is super exciting! It’s been described as a collection of songs exploring your relationship with gender and identity – are you able to tell us a bit more about this and how this theme has inspired your writing?
The album really follows my entire journey of getting (and decided to) get top surgery. The beginning of the album opens with a song which documents the first time I ever told anyone (outside of my partner) that I was considering the surgery, but I still had so much internal shame and repression. Throughout the course of the album, I process these emotions and find my way to the final track ‘Anesthesia’ which leads me into the operating room. It’s a deeply personal album, and I wanted the focus to be on the process and the journey instead of the result.

And how would you say the process of recording the album has differed from your previous releases?
Each time I make an album it has a totally different feel to it. A lot of that is based on the way you record, or the arrangement of the songs, but I think the biggest element involves the people you bring in to make the album with you. This album was primarily made by myself and Tyler Chester, who produced it. We had Abe Rounds, my dear friend, play drums as well, but for the most part it was just me and Tyler putting it together. That was a different approach for me because the previous two albums were more of a band dynamic. I think it made for a really personal and vulnerable environment where I felt like I could try and things and make mistakes. Tyler was wonderful in cultivating a really thoughtful and inclusive environment where getting the song right was the priority. There was no ego involved.

Following the album’s release, you’re heading over the UK in November to play a couple of shows. What can fans expect from a Breymer performance?
Well for one, I’m very much looking forward to playing with a full band again. I always have so much more fun on stage with other people, and I’m really thrilled to be bringing back some of my favourite musicians with me. I think the Breymer project has really allowed me to think intentionally about what this new name should represent. And for me, particularly alongside the album content, I want joy and reclamation to be at the forefront. While this album (and performing it) will undoubtedly bring a lot of vulnerability and fragility, I want the end result and the embodiment of who I am now as an artist to be on the other side of this; acceptance, freedom and joy.

And has there been a specific show you’ve played over the years that stands out as a particular highlight?
The best shows for me aren’t necessarily the biggest ones, but the ones where I have the most fun on stage with the people I’m playing with. One show that comes to mind was about 2 years ago at a really small club in London. I was co headlining with a really good friend of mine, and one of my dear friends (and former college bandmate) Lenny Brown who was playing bass with me. He’s just the best and makes any gig 10x better. The other songwriter who I was performing with came on stage to sing a song with me, and for some reason (it was the end of a very long and exhausting tour, so we were sort of losing it at this point) I could NOT stop laughing. I don’t know what got into me, but I just couldn’t even get through the song. Hopefully the audience members didn’t think I wasn’t incredibly unprofessional, but honestly it’s nights like that, particularly when you’re so exhausted, that just lift the mood and make you remember how fun performing with your friends can (and should) be. I think I value that more and more as I get older. It should be fun.

And when you’re out on tour, or playing gigs, are there any particular essentials that you like to have with you to keep you going?
I’ve definitely got my staples that I’ve learned help me a lot. One would be all of my sleep items. I used to be such an easy sleeper, but those days are gone (especially on the road). So now, I need an eye mask, a small fan that I always travel with, and a noise machine I play from my phone. I feel so lame but sleep is SO important and I’ll do whatever it takes. I also love to travel with my aeropress coffee maker. It’s easy to travel with and I’ve found that making your own coffee on the road saves you SO MUCH money. It’s also (most importantly) such a nice way to instil some sense of routine and control into an otherwise extremely unpredictable and chaotic schedule.

As we’re an organisation with a focus on supporting new and marginalised artists, I just wondered how you feel the industry is for them at the moment? And do you feel much has changed over the years in its treatment of female and queer artists?
I saw this article today that said in an interview with 1200 musicians, 67% of female identifying respondents said they had been a victim of sexual harassment, and over 70% discriminated against. Now that may not all be FROM the music industry, but I wouldn’t be surprised. I think there has been a huge shift recently, particularly in mainstream pop, where queer female artists are becoming much more outspoken and on the front lines, and that visibility is amazing. But I also think with that visibility comes more transparency about these other issues, like  discrimination, sexual harassment and severe depression. It’s such a tough industry, even without these things, so when you pile that on top of it, it can feel unbearable.

And are there any other new bands or artists that you’d recommend we check out at the moment?
I played a few shows last week on the east coast and met another artist who was an opening act in Asheville, NC. His name was Michael Flynn and his artist project is called Slow Runner. It was funny because he saw my setup on stage and said he had the exact same setup – same keyboard, and a small drum machine to accompany his playing. We also had weirdly VERY similar outfits on. There was just had this weird ‘cut from the same cloth’ thing going right away. Anyway, I absolutely loved his performance, and I think one of his songs called ‘Vape King’ was probably one of the best written songs I’ve heard in the past few years (it’s not out anywhere, but hopefully he records it soon….). Anyway, he was awesome and we’ve kept in touch and are going to write together via Zoom soon. Moments like that are such gems on the road.

Is there anything else you’d like to add about upcoming plans or particular thoughts you’d like to mention?
I have two more US album release shows ahead of the UK dates that I’m super excited about and working really hard on. We will be playing the whole album top to bottom, raising money for local gender affirmation clinics through raffles from local business donations, and displaying a few LGBTQ+ visual artists work in accompanying gallery spaces at the venues.

Huge thanks to Breymer for answering our questions!


When I Get Through, the upcoming new album from Breymer, is out next Friday 18th October via One Little Independent Records – pre-order here. Catch them live in the UK next month – playing Brighton on 25th November and London on 26th November. More info here.

12th October – US, LA – Wonzimer Gallery
26th October – US, MN – Berlin
25th November – UK, Brighton – The Folkore Rooms
26th November – UK, London – Paper Dress Vintage

Photo Credit: Simone Thompson

WATCH: Yay Maria – ‘L’Appel Du Vide’

Derby’s Yay Maria is back with ‘L’Appel Du Vide’ – a sunny bubblegum bop that fizzes with energy. While the song packs a proper electro pop punch, the lyrics are at odds with this lightness. Exploring themes of addiction and trauma, they are unafraid to discuss darker and more challenging issues. And, at a time when the trans and non-binary communities are subject to such hostility in the UK, it’s more important than ever to draw attention to these realities.  

While it doesn’t shy away from darkness, you’d be mistaken if you thought ‘L’Appel Du Vide’ was a sad song. Joyous and defiant, this is an anthem to empower and excite people. It’s accompanied by a fully animated music video, which brings together beautiful psychedelic colours, unexpected mythical guests, and a healthy dollop of northern deadpan humour! The effect is irresistible.

Along with the rest of her upcoming EP, Maria says that ‘L’Appel Du Vide’ is something of a love letter to the Queer community. She says: “I made this EP for Queer people in the sense that I feel there is a lot of negative coverage of the trans & queer community currently. So I wanted something that was just for us. Something that is audibly enjoyable whilst talking about real stuff.” 

The result is a real gift to anyone who might need it. It’s a song that’s going to mean the world to people. And this is a musician that’s going to mean the world to people too. In Yay Maria, we have a figurehead; a cheerleader who encourages the community and its allies to keep fighting and have fun. 

‘L’Appel Du Vide’ is taken from Yay Maria’s upcoming EP, Superbia, which will be released on 20th October via I’m Not From London records. Pre-order here.

Vic Conway
@thepicsofvic

Track Of The Day: The Famous Daxx – ‘Treetops’

A deceptively light tune, ‘Treetops‘ by The Famous Daxx has layers you won’t notice at a glance. Inspired by fairy tales, the song has a playfulness in its music combined with heart-wrenching pain in the lyrics, which deconstruct the stories we take for granted as being light-hearted just because they are told to children.

‘Treetops’ is set long after the story of Hansel and Gretel’s abandonment by their father. It is sung from Gretel’s perspective as she laments the death of her brother at his own hand, after finally succumbing to the trauma of his childhood. The song makes a statement about masculinity and mental health, and its impact on men’s lives, whilst also being an exploration of how it feels to love someone struggling with their mental health and the conflicting, long lasting emotions that tragedy can trigger.

It’s a gentle song; the vocals are soft, and flow delicately over almost playful slide guitars. The sorrow in the words and the darkness of the subject matter overall is hidden by the air of lightness in the music, which itself acts as a challenge to our perception of stories. Much like the original tale, the sweetness of the sound masks the suffering at its core.

‘Treetops’ doesn’t have a happy ending. In the same breath that Gretel resolves to speak out, she fails to break the cycle – “This time I will speak my mind / I open my mouth but nothing comes out” – leaving her pain lingering in the air. The track is profound, but doesn’t pretend to have answers to the helplessness Gretel feels; it laments that all Gretel’s love ultimately couldn’t save her brother from his pain, and knows there isn’t an easy solution that can be condensed into a three minute song. But it leaves you with the undeniable conviction that it’s worth the work it will take to find one anyway.

‘Treetops’ is out now, ahead of The Famous Daxx’s upcoming debut EP TFD.

Kirstie Summers
@actuallykurt

Photo Credit: Hannah Mason