INTERVIEW: Tokky Horror

The last time I spoke with Tokky Horror producer Zee, it was face-to-face outside of Hackney’s Sebright Arms in 2018. They were fronting a completely different band at the time, but the ethos behind their art has always been the same: make space in music for marginalised folks and get in the mosh pit if you can.

When we meet via Zoom for a chat this time around, Zee is taking their lunchbreak in the basement of Future Yard, an independent music venue in their native town of Birkenhead. Opening a month before the Covid-19 pandemic hit in 2020, Zee has been working as their Operations Manager for the past few years.

“Tokky Horror played our first gig here, which was nice,” they tell me. “Birkenhead has always been this kind of outsider town to Liverpool. There’s a river that runs between us, and Birkenhead is always seen as ‘the dark side’ of the river. We’re not seen as properly scouse, and we’re not seen as properly Welsh, we’re kind of something in between. So it’s actually nice that the majority of Tokky’s beginnings have been in Birkenhead and we’ve been able to play my hometown.”

Alongside dual vocalists Mollie Rush and Ava Akira – two absolute forces of nature – Zee initially formed Tokky Horror virtually, sending demo’s back and forth online to entertain each other during the pandemic. Full of hyperactive beats, punk attitude and jungle-inspired electronics, the band playfully coined their sound as “virtual hardcore”. Since then, Tokky Horror have released their debut EP, I Found The Answers And Now I Want More and toured extensively across the UK.

Newly signed to Venn Records, the trio are currently preparing to release their upcoming EP, KAPPACORE on 12th May. Zee is wearing a black hoodie with the Tokky KAPPA-inspired logo on the front when we speak, which feels pretty apt. I ask what fans can expect from their new release.

“I think we didn’t really know what we were doing when we started Tokky Horror,” Zee laughs. “We just kind of kept rolling with it and writing and having fun just to kind of entertain ourselves. The songs that we’ve come up with that are now on KAPPACORE are the first songs we wrote properly together post-lockdown. Most of them were written around tours and live shows. So this almost feels like our first release. The initial EP we did and the stuff we released through Alcopop! was almost like the equivalent of a band getting into the practice room, which we couldn’t do at the time. It was us jut kind of playing with ideas and seeing what we were, and what we wanted to do. Whereas KAPPACORE is the first time we’d all come together to write something and be like, ‘This is what Tokky is, this is our statement.'”

This statement has been delivered in the form of the EP’s first single, ‘Toilet’. A blend of drum & bass beats, manic riffs and surprisingly vulnerable lyrics, the track is inspired by Zee’s own experiences of finding their feet within activist scenes in music and further afield. This need for real change is something that has always fuelled Zee’s output.

“I think a lot of my music has been about that, forever,” they comment, “but ‘Toilet’ specifically is more aimed at activist scenes. I always felt when I was younger and slightly more naive, that these movements I’d associate myself with were perfect. So lots of queer movements and scenes would be perfect in my quite naive head.

I think a lot of punks love the word ‘anarchy’, but they would much rather be pissed in a toilet somewhere than making genuine change, and it was quite hard for me to realise that. It was really hard for me to accept. I went through this big period of feeling almost hopeless. I think maybe in some part of my teenage, early 20s mind, I was like, ‘we’re going to burn this horrible world down! We’re going to build a new one!’ – then I realised the people who were going to burn it down were just wasted. That’s what ‘Toilet’ is about. You’re more likely to find these people passed out on the toilet floor, then stood outside Parliament protesting. I think I’ve realised that you have to be the change.

Whilst these epiphanies were initially painful for Zee, they were also the catalyst for creating the new space and ethos they felt was lacking from music scenes.

“The entire premise of Future Yard and my work here is to give young people and people from disadvantaged backgrounds opportunities to work and have careers within live music,” Zee continues. “We’ve worked on a tonne of training programmes and it’s about being the active change in your community and actively participating. I don’t think you can wait for a movement to come by and fix it, I think we have to just make these kinds of gradual, small changes ourselves. As far as Tokky Horror is concerned, we try to do that in our everyday existence. We try to play venues where we agree with their ethos, we try to make music that will maybe encourage people to do that. Our team and the people we work with, we trust them to be part of that change.”

Taking part in this year’s Independent Venue Week was another element of that. Tokky Horror played six live dates back in February to celebrate it, beginning their mini tour at The Moon in Cardiff, dropping by London’s Black Heart in Camden, before wrapping things up at the Quarry in Liverpool.

“I love Independent Venue Week,” Zee enthuses. “I love the ethos behind it and the way the public engages with it. You can tell there’s an appetite from people to support venues and support the bands during that week. There’s a real positivity around the whole thing. Particularly given that last January, most venues were closed because of Omicron. It was really nice to see a fully functional venue week this year. It was probably one of my favourite ever tours. You just go to the best venues in the country, what more could you want?

The Black Heart show was funny. It was absolute carnage from the moment we stood on the stage. I’ve always wanted to do that with my music, I’ve always wanted it to be that from the get go, that the room just explodes. The Black Heart was almost perfectly that. The circle pit opened during the intro music. We played ‘Insomnia’ by Faithless and as soon as that synth dropped, our guitarist James and I looked at each other, and we were like ‘this is gonna go off…’ We played some great shows that week. We played Blackpool, Newcastle and Manchester. We sold out a bunch of those dates out as well, which was great.”

Performing live is clearly where Tokky Horror thrive. Vocalists Ava and Mollie are renowned for their visceral, in-your-face energy and their commitment to making sure everyone in the mosh pits at a Tokky show has their boundaries respected. Carving out a safe space for their fans – whilst also feeling safe enough themselves – is at the center of all that Tokky Horror do. I ask Zee if fans have spoken to them about these triumphs, and their response is honest and considered.

“There’s a lot of women and gender queer, and queer people that come to the shows and are in the front row, and it’s really nice,” Zee says. “They don’t feel like there’s going to be this type of masculine mosh pit, and that they’ll get the shit kicked out of them. Having said that, we have had a little bit of backlash against moshing at our events actually. People have said that it made them feel uncomfortable, which I fully understand. I think it’s something that we’re trying to find a kind of happy medium on, where people can mosh and party and move, without it getting out of hand.

It’s such a great vibe at the Tokky gigs. The energy that the crowd brings, we’re always fully grateful for that. I don’t think we’ve ever played a show that’s not had a mosh pit. Even when there’s only five people in the room, they’ll start dancing and kind of going crazy. That’s amazing. We make music for you to move to. It is part of the culture, and it’s part of the band. But we’re trying to do that safely and do that in a way that makes people comfortable. It is 100% what we’re about. I would never want people to not want to come and see us, or turn away from a show because of it either.

I think moshing in general is having a little bit of an identity crisis. We’re seeing an increase in moshing at events that wouldn’t normally have them. There’s been a big backlash against moshing at jungle and drum and bass events. If I’m honest, I love moshing. I think it’s a great way for people to express themselves and to have that chaos and adrenaline rush that people crave. It’s just got to be safe. It’s got to be handled in a way that has the audience in mind, and people’s varying access requirements in mind. It’s a work in progress.”

It’s certainly something the band will be considering on the impressive run of live dates they have coming up in the next few months. This includes a slot alongside Brighton electro-punks CLT DRP – who Zee loves – supporting Alice Glass in Leeds, and a run of dates supporting Enter Shikari on their UK tour.

“Shikari were one of those bands that as a teenager, they kind of blew my mind a little bit,” Zee smiles. “I’ve always really loved electronic music. That’s what my Mum and Dad were really into, stuff like the Prodigy, Orbital and Underworld. But I grew up also loving heavy music and punk, so as soon as I heard Enter Shikari and the ridiculousness that was going on in their sound, something just really spoke to me. I really loved their Take To The Skies album. So to be going out on tour with them now and have that kind of nod of approval is really surreal, but a very lovely thing to have.”

Following these live dates, Tokky Horror will be on the festival circuit, which includes appearances at Blackpool’s Rebellion Festival, Burn It Down Festival in Devon, and the amazing ArcTanGent Festival in Bristol. “It’s the first time we’re playing ArcTanGent and the lineup is absolutely insane,” Zee comments. “We’re playing on the same day as HEALTH and IGORRR, who is one of my all-time biggest influences as a producer. I’m really glad that we get to play it.”

Before I let Zee return to their work, I ask if they have any bands or artists who they’ve been listening to recently that they’d like to recommend.

“I’ve got a tonne! Off the top of my head, I really love this band called Nihiloxica. It’s really percussion-led kind of techno. It’s absolutely amazing. I’d also recommend Zulu, who are a black power violence band. They’ve just dropped their album A New Tomorrow, and I’ve been rinsing that, it’s phenomenal stuff. They’re on my to-see-list this year.”

Tokky Horror UK Live Dates 2023
8th April – Manchester Punk Festival, Manchester (DJ Set)
13th April – St Lukes, Glasgow (supporting Enter Shikari)
14th April – New Century Hall, Manchester (supporting Enter Shikari)
15th April – KK Steel Mill, Wolverhampton (supporting Enter Shikari)
16th April – SWX, Bristol (supporting Enter Shikari)
17th April – Outernet, London (supporting Enter Shikari)
26th April – Oporto, Leeds (co-headline with CLT DRP)
27th April – Rock City Beta, Nottingham
28th April – The Black Prince, Northampton
30th April – Sounds From The Other City, Salford
18th May – KAPPACORE EP Release Party Blondies, London
26th May – Sneister Festival, The Hague NL
9th June – Fiestas De La Artes, Manchester
5th August – Rebellion Festival, Blackpool
18th August – Convoy Cabaret Festival, Dorchester
19th August – Arctangent Festival, Somerset
9th September – Burn It Down Festival, Devon

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Introducing Interview: Maja Lena

Following last year’s captivating debut album The Keeper, and previous projects Hot Feet and Low Chimes, alt-folk artist Maja Lena has now released her second solo album, Pluto. Delving into an ethereal alternate world, Pluto immerses the listener in its glistening sweeping soundscapes, all flowing with Maja Lena’s trademark majestic grace and resplendent vocals.

We caught up with Maja Lena to find out more about the album, her inspirations and touring essentials… Have a read and watch the beautiful video for recent single ‘The Stone‘ below!

Hi Maja Lena Welcome to Get In Her Ears! Can you tell us a bit about yourself? 
Hello! I was born and brought up in Stroud in England but my Mum is Swedish so I spend a lot of time there. My family and some friends call me Maja and my middle name is Lena, but I also go by Marianne. I started out in a band called Hot Feet in my teens, we then went on to become Low Chimes till the end of 2017, and then I began this project a year or so later and began working and releasing with independent label Chiverin. I’ve also been working on a Natural Horsemanship Therapy yard for the last 14 years and I help my husband Luke part-time on his no-dig market garden.

Are you able to tell us a bit about how and why you initially started creating music? 
Singing, playing and listening to music was always a big part of our household growing up, and most of my friends were musical too. I think it just happened naturally and had become a very familiar form of expression to me by the time I started writing my own songs. I think I was also lucky in that my parents were very supportive of me doing that.

We love your beautifully twinkling folk-strewn sounds , but who would you say are your main musical influences?
Thank you! The Incredible String Band, Mike Oldfield, Pentangle, Fairport Convention, Leonard Cohen, Joe Hisaishi, PJ Harvey, Nick Drake, The Velvet Underground, Kate Bush, Sandy Denny, Radiohead, Beck, Domenique Dumont..

You’ve just released your new album Pluto, which is very exciting! Are you able to tell us a bit about what inspired it and the themes running throughout it?
Reality vs imagination and believing stories we’ve created in our heads – I was spending quite a lot of time on my own when I wrote it, so had plenty of time and space to get stuck into my own imagination. Eventually a whole made up landscape/ alternate world formed where most of the songs are set, with Pluto in the distance instead of the sun or moon, as there are Plutonic themes such as destruction and creation, transformation and renewal throughout the record.

How would you say it differs from last year’s debut, The Keeper? 
The Keeper was set more in the real world and was overall more stripped back. We delved deeper sonically making this one, trying to bring the landscape to life with more synth and electronic explorations. I also wrote Pluto in a much more condensed period of time (a couple of the songs whilst we were recording), and I personally feel they were more of a natural fit together than those on the first, which I’d written over a much wider timescale.

We had the pleasure of seeing your beautiful set at Deershed Festival this year, but is there a live show you’ve played that stands out as a highlight?
Oh thank you! Probably the next show after that at Smugglers Festival, which was our 2nd band show of the year and we had a few extra friends play with us on stage. It was late in the afternoon on a beautiful sunny day in a beautiful place, and it was possibly the most relaxed I’ve ever felt on stage. I was able to fully enjoy playing the music with my lovely band and had a really fun time!

And, when out on tour, are there any particular essentials that you need with you and keep you going when away from home? 
I am type 1 diabetic so firstly all my associated testers and insulin/sugar. A good scarf, book, health tinctures – oregano oil’s my current fave! Rescue remedy, swimsuit & running clothes, notebook, pillow, hot water bottle, more recently my Grandma’s glamorous bright yellow handbag for keeping spirits up! And last but not least, waterproofs and walking boots! I always like to try and fit in walking and nature time wherever possible – I think fresh air and some hills and trees to stomp about amongst are my biggest tour essential!

How do you feel the industry is for new artists at the moment? And do you feel much has changed over the last few years in its treatment of female and queer/LGBTQ+  artists? 
Without speaking to many people in person on these questions, I find it hard to answer them with much certainty, but from what I’ve seen online (which is obviously only a small part of the picture), I imagine it must be very difficult for new artists as well as any artist for that matter – as in many areas of profession, so much has changed and is full of uncertainty, there are so many extra things to do and try to balance behind the scenes, so many of us trying to do several jobs at once to make ends meet which can be difficult to juggle.
And in terms of the second question, again I feel I’d need to actually speak to a lot more people to get a truer picture than the one I do mainly just online and feel I can only really speak from my own personal experience. For better and normally for worse, I’m a bit of a recluse! 

As we’re a new music focused site, are there any other upcoming artists you’re loving right now that you’d recommend we check out?
Holyseuss Fly is awesome! 

Finally, what does 2023 have in store for Maja Lena? 
I’ve just finished the album release tour, then hopefully lots of writing, lots of hiking, and deeper synth and guitar explorations! And lots more working outdoors with animal friends and vegetables.

Massive thanks to Maja Lena for answering our questions!

Maja Lena’s latest album, Pluto, is out now via Chiverin Records.

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INTERVIEW: Jessica Winter

Described as a state of mind that relates to both romantic and platonic relationships, ‘Limerence’ refers to the “intrusive, melancholic thoughts” and the “involuntary, intense desire” we experience when falling in love with someone. This myriad of conflicting emotions is what inspired Jessica Winter‘s upcoming EP of the same name. Set for release tomorrow (10th Feb) via Lucky Number, the London-based artist has transformed her heavy experiences of heartache into five new glossy, energetic pop gems.

We caught up with Jessica to talk about her new record, what she’s learned from falling in and out of love, and her anticipations for her upcoming SXSW appearance and support slots touring with Rebecca Black…

 

Hello Jessica, it’s been a while since we last spoke! We were big fans of your EP, Sad Music, which you released back in 2020, but a lot has happened since then. You now have a new record on the horizon now, talk me through what inspired the songs on your new EP, Limerence…

I think it all started with the final track of the EP, which is called ‘The Love Song’. It was a stream of consciousness thing, it was almost like verbal diarrhea. Life can be quite chaotic, especially with love, and having no control over it. It was just all of my thoughts and feelings coming out. So I was thinking about why these things were happening in my life, what patterns I kept following, and then it got into other things things like addiction, which is where ‘Funk This Up’ came from. That track is to do with sabotaging yourself through drugs, drink and sex. You know that’s the place that you can go to to escape, but that it will hurt you, but you end up doing it anyway. It’s like the angel and the demon complex. So I think from those two songs, I was like, ‘Wow, that’s a lot issues going on there!’

I wrote ‘Let Me In’ a long time ago, but it is also about struggling with the same kind of love issues. ‘Choreograph’ is more of a perspective of society in itself. It’s about where we’re at, in terms of what we portray love as and what we deem as happiness. I think ‘Choreograph’ is the standout track for me. ‘Clutter’ is the pop banger, which I’m really proud of, but I feel that ‘Choreograph’ is the best song, for sure. In terms of production, it has three different genres in one. It starts as a piano musical theater ballad, and then goes into a disco, trance-y big chaotic mess at the end. It’s really dramatic. It’s just one of those songs that doesn’t come around very often. It stands on its own. It’s all about the lyrics for me on that song. The desperation to just find something real.

So when I put all of my songs together, I realized there was a running theme to do with love. I think the EP is also a reaction to what was going on in 2020 too. We all went into lockdown, and I think we’re all yet to realize how that has affected us in the years to come. It’s amplified all of our demons in some weird way.

There’s something about your music and the way in which you tackle quite dark concepts, but with such a euphoric pop twist. I think that’s a real achievement.

Thank you! I don’t want things to just be doom and gloom. You’ve got to entertain!

Exactly, you’ve got to have the light with the dark. That’s how it works. Something that I do find really entertaining are the music videos that accompany your singles, especially your most recent ones ‘Choreograph’ and ‘Clutter’, which features Lynks. Talk me through your approaches to making them…

I feel like you can’t take yourself too seriously. There’s a real fine line between taking yourself too seriously, but also not being a joke. So I’m always treading that fine line. But with ‘Choreograph’, it had to be quite a grandiose kind of video, because I was talking about that classic Hollywood-style type of love. So obviously, I had to have a rain machine and do a video where I was recreating ‘Singing In The Rain’…

I always feel like I need to juxtapose things, depending on the song and the content. So with ‘Clutter’, it’s such a shiny glossy song, so with the video, it was more like a very British reality. A gloomy day in a vintage car, not in Hollywood with a rain machine.

I love the group of older women who feature in the video. I also love the concept that they have “left their husbands in order to seek a new life, filled with independent energy and hotness…”

It was so nice working with the women in the video, because they ended up giving us some words of wisdom. They were telling us about the different stages in your life as a woman, and how you come to different realizations at different points. It ended up being almost like a therapy session! They said not to worry, because it does take women a lot longer than we think to work out relationships, and what they want and need from a relationship. It can take people up to their 40s to suddenly realise, ‘Oh, my God, this is what I need out of life!’

We’re so put upon with the idea of ‘you need to be this, and you should be this’ by a certain age, especially in romantic relationships. It stops us from thinking ‘actually, what do I want?’ It takes women a lot longer to get to a point where we can actually go ‘this relationship is making me ill. I’m not going to do that anymore.’

That’s good advice.

You collaborated with Lynks on that track, but you’ve also collaborated with lots of other artists before, including The Big Moon, Jazmin Bean, Phoebe Green, Sundara Karma, Walt Disco and Brodka. Juliet from The Big Moon described you as “an angel who came into her life” and helped her to make sense of the band’s song ‘Wide Eyes’, which is very sweet. What do you think makes for a good musical collaboration? 

That’s probably the nicest compliment I’ve ever had! I think a positive collaboration, for me, is when people come to me because they rate what I do, rather than me having to bend or change what I do to please someone else, and vice versa. I always end up working with people that I really, genuinely love. There have been times when I’ve been put in a room with a Tik Tok star, and when I ask them what they want to do, they’ve got no idea. That’s not really a collaboration in my opinion, that’s just me working for someone.

So, I think what makes it good is working with someone who already knows what they want. They just need someone with a fresh perspective. Because sometimes when you’re on your own, you do get lost, and you need a fresh pair of ears. Just to have someone that can come in and say ‘Oh, how about this? Have you tried this?’ That’s what is good for me. I think it’s about having a shared ethos and respect.

You’ve got some great live shows coming up, including a performance at SXSW in March and some support slots with Rebecca Black on her UK tour. What are your anticipations for these?

I’m excited to go over to the states and play SXSW because I haven’t done that before. I’m not expecting anything other than to just to have some fun!

I’m really excited to play with Rebecca Black too. I love her new music, it’s so good. I think she’s gone through so much, from her parents buying her a day in a recording studio for her thirteenth birthday, up to now. I don’t think they knew how much that would change her life at the time. I love the fact that she’s having a moment now.

You’re taking this call from inside a recording studio, so does this mean you’re recording more new music? What can you tell us about that?

I’m writing an album at the moment actually. Well, I’m desperately trying to write it. I’m just never happy with any anything I do. At the moment I’m just in writing mode, but at some point I’ll stop and review everything.

Taking time away from things is useful in all walks of life, but do you think this is especially useful in terms of music? Is it important to you to have gaps between your records?

Completely! This is what I feel is kind of wrong with the pop world, is that you have to try and bang out a song in a day – and then that’s it. No one ever goes back to it and tries to refine it. I love refining, going back and really taking time over things and then having a break, not listening to it, coming back to it refreshed. I feel that that process is dying in pop music, but I’m going to try and keep it alive. I come from an indie background, from bands and stuff like that, so that’s probably why I do it like that. But making pop music is what I really want to do.

Do you think people’s attitudes to pop music have changed since the introduction of Tik Tok? You mentioned earlier that you had worked with someone who was famous on the app, and it wasn’t the most equal collaboration. What are your thoughts on this new online culture around music? I find it hard to wrap my head around sometimes.

I feel like Tik Tok a great platform to make silly videos and make silly songs. I think it’s really entertaining, but the thing that it doesn’t really account for is artistry. You’re making content for that platform, and that’s great, and there are people that can do it really, really well. It can translate on to Spotify, but I don’t think people really care where it comes from, or who it was made by. They’re not going to want to go and see the artist live necessarily. I just feel like that it separates the two, and I think trying to urge artists on to Tik Tok, to create for Tik Tok, has to be done in a certain way.

As an artist, it’s really good to try and stay authentic to what feels comfortable for you, because these platforms change so often. In five years time, I think that Tik Tok will have so many more different levels to it, so I’m not going to obsess and change my entire diary to factor in Tik Tok all the time. The way in which we use it will probably change, or it might even just go altogether, just like Vine. We’re in this crazy technology age, unfortunately. We’re all still so new to this.

That’s a really good point. Tik Tok feels like the biggest thing ever, and you can’t live without it. But truthfully, it could just disappear tomorrow, because it’s just all digital, isn’t it? It’s not tangible. This makes me feel better about not being on the app…

Finally, we always ask people we interview to recommend some new music to us. Who have you been listening to recently?

I really love JVKE and his song ‘Golden Hour’ at the moment. It just does it for me. It’s like if John Legend was on speed or something. I love Hemlock Springs as well. She’s got this song called ‘Girlfriend’, which is just brilliant. It’s kind of like 80s lo-fi, but the song is basically two chords and it just builds and builds and builds and is really beautiful.

Thanks to Jessica for answering our questions!

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Introducing Interview: Frankie Morrow

Having released their debut EP, Blue Parrot Backpackers Hotel, in October, Scottish alt-rock band Frankie Morrow finally formed their current fully-fledged outfit last year after initially playing together and separately in various musical projects across Scotland since their teens. Since January, musicians Frankie Morrow, James Smith, Duncan Carswell, Samuel Nicholson and Neev have been playing and recording together, and have received airplay from the likes of BBC Radio 1 and Amazing Radio.

We’re big fans of Frankie Morrow’s glistening, folk-strewn sounds and heartfelt lyricism, and can’t wait to hear more from them in 2023. We had a lovely chat to find out more about the EP, what inspires them, being a woman in music and more… Have a read, and make sure you listen to the beautiful EP now!

Hi Frankie. Welcome to Get In Her Ears! Can you tell us a bit about yourself?
Hello GIHE! It’s so cool to be speaking to you, we are huge fans – we loved your night down at the Victoria in October where Jemma Freeman and the Cosmic Something headlined. Frankie Morrow are a Scottish, female-led 5-piece who play alt-rock for the soul. 

Are you able to tell us a bit about how and why you initially started creating music?
Well, myself and James were actually in a band together back in our hometown of Paisley when we were 14 years old! To be honest I think most of our friends came to the shows as a place to drink cider underage hahaha, but we had a rare time.  

We love your luscious, soaring folk-strewn sounds , but who would you say are your main musical influences?
We as a band have a hugely diverse range of musical influences, though I’d say some of my personal influences would be classic Americana/rock like Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Bob Dylan, Scottish writers such as Rab Noakes, and more contemporary bands like Big Thief and Katy J Pearson.

You recently released your debut EP, Blue Parrot Backpackers Hotel,  which is very exciting! Are you able to tell us a bit about what inspired it and the themes running throughout it?
Well, it all started where most records start – with a break up! These songs are a collection of my musings over the years; before the band got together I used to perform as a solo artist, and so I guess the impetus was really just me coming to terms with lots of the changes and upheaval that had happened in my life at the time. Blue Parrot Backpackers Hostel is my ‘Sliding Doors’ moment. Have you seen that film? The whole premise is based around Helen – who’s played by Gwyneth Paltrow – and how her life could dramatically change based on whether she catches a train or not. It got me thinking about how these tiny decisions we make in our everyday lives can have such huge impacts on us later down the line, and I found that a really interesting concept for the record.

You recently played live at the Sebright Arms – how was that? And, for those who missed it, what can fans expect from your live show?
We had an absolute blast! We were still buzzing from it the next day. Our live show and our current musical direction is actually a lot more raucous than what we have on record so far. We absolutely love playing for people – it’s our favourite thing to do, we want people to feel moved and for them to forget their worries at our shows.

The EP was produced and arranged by you, with an all-female engineer team, which is very awesome! What was the recording process like, and how did you all work together? 
It was amazing! I deliberately wanted to recruit an all-female engineering team from the get go for this debut. We recorded most of the EP between my flat and kind friends’ houses. then I sent the stems to Taylor Pollock (Platoon) to mix. Taylor was an absolute dream to work with; it was such a collaborative process from start to finish, and I’ve never met someone so dedicated to a project. Izzy McPhee was absolutely brilliant as well, and I even got to go and meet her at her studio in Bristol. It was really powerful to be part of that team.

And is there a particular live show you’ve played that stands out as a highlight?
To be honest our headline at the Sebright is probably the standout so far as it’s such an iconic venue and we’ve seen so many bands we love play there over the years. It was a real honour to headline.

How do you feel the industry is for new artists at the moment? And do you feel much has changed over the last few years in its treatment of female and queer/LGBTQ+  artists? 
In some ways the industry is far more accessible than before in terms of opportunities for editorial playlisting which breaks down global barriers, and of course through social media. Though, on the flipside, labels are taking less chances on bands and there’s not much money in streaming at an emerging level. However, I do feel quite positive about it overall; I think if you focus on the making of good music supported by other marketing tools, and just try not to get to bogged down in the numbers… In terms of treatment of female and queer artists, I think things definitely have moved on, though I have unfortunately had quite a few people presume men have produced the EP or that it wasn’t me playing guitar etc – this is still something that happens regularly. A personal highlight from a recent gig: “Wow, you can actually play the guitar?!” …  If you don’t laugh, you will cry!

As we’re a new music focused site, are there any other upcoming artists you’re loving right now that you’d recommend we check out?
Oh absolutely! Lizzie Reid had a gorgeous EP out this year. We saw her with full band down at Paperdress Vintage towards the end of last year. Oh, and I was just introduced to NewDad who are brilliant.

Finally, what does 2023 have in store for Frankie Morrow? 
We are so excited to get back into the studio this month. The new tracks are big alt-rock bangers and we are chomping at the bit to get started.

Massive thanks to Frankie for answering our questions! Listen to Blue Parrot Backpacker’s Hostel now, and watch the charming video for single ‘Sunflowers’ below:

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