INTERVIEW: Softcult

It was 2021 the last time that we caught up with Softcult‘s guitarist and vocalist Mercedes Arn-Horn. A lot has happened for Canadian twin sibling shoegaze duo since then. Together, Mercedes and Phoenix have released four EPs – Year Of The Rat (2021), Year Of The Snake (2022), See You In The Dark (2023) and Heaven (2024) – supported the likes of Muse, Movemements and Incubus on tour and they’ve played headline shows across the USA, Canada and the UK. They’re currently back in the UK and preparing to play to a nearly sold out crowd at The Underworld in Camden tonight (12th November), with support from dream pop four piece Bleach Lab (ticket link here)

Dressed in her Softcult trademark ‘Gloomy Girl’ hoodie, when we spoke with Mercedes via Zoom a few weeks ago, she was excited to be returning to England and ready to bring the swirling, heavy sounds of their recent EP to the stage for fans to enjoy live. We discussed the evolution in Softcult’s sound, the band’s plans for a full length album, and we also touched upon the importance of being open about mental health issues and practicing self-care…

It’s been a few months now since Softcult released the Heaven EP. what are you most proud of about this record?

It’s the last EP we’ll put out for a while, because we’re working on a full length album. With this one we tried to get a little more conceptual with it as a whole body of work. I think sonically and musically we pushed ourselves to go into some different directions and really lean into the more obscure parts of our sound. There’s definitely still bops and stuff on the EP, but we really tried to lean heavily into the shoegaze element and also lean heavily into the Riot Grrrl, punk element. I think we were pushing ourselves sonically to try new things and I’m happy with how it turned out.

What has the reaction to it been like from your fans?

If you listen from this EP to the first one, you can definitely hear how things have grown. So I really appreciate it when we hear that from our fans and the people that like our music. It’s nice when they recognise and can see the work and the musicianship that we’ve put into our newer stuff. It never feels like a jarring change from EP to EP musically, but it’s still evolving.

There’s definitely a heavier shoegaze quality to the tracks on Heaven, even in the way that the songs transition into each other. Was this intentional when you were writing it?

A lot of what you’re describing has to do with the fact that the first and second EPs were released those during lockdown, so we weren’t able to tour. Now, fast forward to the Heaven EP, we’re 4 EPs deep and we’ve got a lot of touring under our belts, so I think that we were able to play around with interludes live, that we don’t do on the record with our earlier works. It’s really cool to see how audiences react when you’re jamming on stage. It gets really mesmerizing, it’s almost hypnotising sometimes. With the song ‘Haunt You Still’, for example, that’s one of my favourite ones on the EP because we took the time to do a whole instrumental section that really builds and there’s no vocals until the end. I think we learned some of those tricks from being on the road and playing live.

Speaking of playing live, you’re going to be back in the UK in November playing a headline tour with Bleach Lab. What are your anticipations for these shows? 

We love the UK. I really feel like that’s where Softcult got our start, even though we’re Canadian, our first ever tour was in the UK and I felt so much support from the fanbase and the music scene there. I feel really lucky that we get to be a part of it in some way. It’s one of the best scenes globally, in my opinion. I love it. Especially coming over at this time of the year when things are really gloomy and gothy, it’s such a vibe.

I’ve been a fan of Bleach Lab for a really long time. They’re putting out new music too so it just feels like a good time for us to come together and share the stage. I am really excited to play these new songs live. This particular set that we’ve been working on, we’ve had the chance to play on other tours, it’s probably the last tour that we’re gonna do with this particular live set. I’m really happy with the way it flows, there’s a lot of live interludes and extended parts of songs. Songs that kind of flow one into the other in a really intentional way. I’m excited to bring it to the UK.

As well as your own EP this year, you released a collaborative track with Bristol-based heavy band Split Chain titled ‘(Re)-Extract’. Tell me more about that. It’s such a HUGE sound that you’ve both created together.

It just worked out so well. The song gives me Deftones and Nirvana vibes. We were honoured to be asked to do it. I love collaborating with people when I can hear that there’s something we could add to the track. We just tried to add really spooky vocals, I was definitely trying to live my Amy Lee fantasy on that one for sure. I’m glad that we got to be part of the visual too. Who knows, one day maybe we’ll be able to go on tour with them.

It has that Southern California nu-metal sound, but I will say though, as someone who isn’t from the UK, but who is obsessed with UK music, the UK just has something in the sound that is different from anywhere else. I hear it in Split Chain’s sound. There’s just this nuanced intelligence about the music in the UK. There’s something about it that’s really compelling.

As well as playing live, another way that you interact with your fans is through your zine called SCripture. In the most recent edition, you penned a really compelling personal essay about mental health and the impact of stress on the body. Can you tell us more about what inspired you to share this story with your fans?

The SCripture zine is definitely all about fostering a community around social issues, political issues, and now I think it’s a good time to talk about mental health too. That was the reason we started the zine. We like to tie topics of the zine together with songs that we’ve written and that’s what inspired me to write that particular zine issue. Some of our songs, ‘Spiralling Out’ for example, in retrospect, when I hear that song, I’m recognising more what it’s about now than I did at the time when I wrote it. Then when I was thinking about it, I was like “this is definitely something more people should be talking about” in general. Get more awareness of it and more educated on it too. I do think knowledge is power. You feel less afraid when you’re not ignorant to certain situations.

When we are open about those things it takes away the taboo about talking about mental health and especially talking about women’s health in general. It was a real eye opener for me how stress manifests in so many different ways physically in the body. It’s kind of something I’m a little embarrassed to say I didn’t really know how much of an impact stress can have on you on a physical level until recently, and I think that’s because I was ignoring it for a very long time. So, I think the best thing that you can do is really own it and be transparent about it with people, and you’ll see how many other people have had similar experiences and gotten through it.

That’s the reason why I wanted to be very candid about it in that particular zine. Because when I started opening up to my female friends about what I was going through, I was shocked at how many other women had very similar experiences. It did make me feel less alone and less afraid in that situation. Also, I think a lot of the time when you acknowledge those things, it helps your mind process what’s going on and that helps your body too, so there’s a lot of reasons to talk about it.

Women’s health, our bodies and in our minds, it’s all so tied together. I think a lot of the time Women’s health can be something that’s swept under the rug. It’s very reductive and I am aware of that through not only my experience, but other women in my life who have had to deal with stuff. You end up having to do a lot of your own research and you’re lucky if a doctor is in tune with that and sensitive to those things. With my particular issues, I never thought it was stress, but it definitely was. So dealing with that helped me on the physical side of things too. But my mind was going in a completely different directions and that definitely doesn’t help.

Being a touring musician can also bring its own unique set of stresses and mental and physical health challenges. What advice would you give to other musicians who might be struggling?

For me, I know that my thing is I don’t know when to slow down. That feels like something really difficult to do on tour. But some good advice that I got was just do one thing for yourself everyday that has no other motive, other than it’s just something that you want to do. So on tour for me, that could be going for a walk, getting a coffee, taking a nice long shower at the end of the day. Those are things that seem very luxurious or frivolous, but if you deny yourself these things that centre you and ground you, after a while you’re gonna notice that the stress just keeps building up and the anxiety builds up and there’s no outlet for it. Luckily for me, being on stage and performing is an outlet for me. Being on tour, while certain parts of it can be stressful, the good news is at least once a day you do have that cathartic moment where you can let things out. Strangely I don’t feel that stressed on tour. I think I get more stressed out when I’m at home.

I think everyone’s different, and different things stress you out in different ways, but for me, I love having creative outlets like writing music, performing music, writing the zine – those are all really good outlets for me. So I’d say take time for yourself, even if it’s just a couple of minutes a day to ground yourself and do something that brings you peace and makes you feel calm. You’re doing it just for yourself. It sounds small, but it does have a very big impact.

It can be difficult to ask for that space can’t it? Sometimes it can be perceived in a negative way, like you’re being “difficult”…

Not so much now, because we’re evolving as a society and as a scene, but there have been so many times when you’re made to feel like you’re being a diva if you need to set a boundary as a female artist. People can be so ignorant about that. I often see my male counterparts setting very similar boundaries with people – even with fans for example – if you feel like someone is taking up a lot of your space and making you feel uncomfortable – I feel like the second you say that as a woman, it’s suddenly like “oh she’s a diva” and you just don’t see that same kind of energy with our male counterparts. My advice to female artists out there would be don’t listen to that noise. Just stand your ground, do what’s right for you. You don’t owe anyone anything, but you owe yourself everything.

This will be your last tour for a while, as you’re in the process of recording your debut album. What can you tell us about the record?

We’re in the middle of recording it right now and we’re about half way done. We’re going to finish it before the end of the year and then release it next year. It’s really exciting. We just got our concept figured out and we chose a title and a rough track-listing in the past two weeks. It’s cool because we’ve been releasing EPs for the entire life of this band, but now we finally get to do a full length album. In some ways I love just putting out singles and having a way shorter timeline between releases so that you can keep creating. But in other ways, I do really love the idea of this body of work that’s just a whole concept, a whole era of music that’s laid out and a story that’s being told, and an opportunity to really world-build with the band. That’s the mindset we’re going into with this. Taking our time and really doing it right, since it’s our first actual full length. We’re really trying to sink our teeth into the creative aspect of things. I’m really excited about it because it is coming together. It’s almost like a blurry photo coming into focus and I can finally see what the photo is.

Thanks to Mercedes for taking the time to speak with us!

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Five Favourites: Umarells

Having just shared their debut EP, One More Day, Manchester-based dream-pop group Umarells create lush, glistening soundscapes, fizzing with a rippling raw emotion. Combining elements of shoegaze, grunge and indie-pop, they offer heartfelt reflections on themes such as grief and failed relationships, each song offering their own unique sparkling musicality.

We think one of the best ways to get to know an artist is by asking what music inspires them. So, following the release of their debut EP, we caught up with Imogen, Josh, Ryan Sarah and Fuchsia to find out about the five albums that inspire them the most. Read about their five favourites, and watch the beautiful video for stirring single ‘June‘, below…

Weyes Blood – Titanic Rising
I first heard Natalie of Weyes Blood’s gorgeous Carpenter-esque voice on Drugdealer’s 2016 album The End Of  Comedy. When Titanic Rising was released in 2019 it resonated as the theme of an era of my life. Blending ‘70s pop vocals with romantic space age synth cynicism I was hooked from my first listen and rushed to see the masterpiece live in Manchester venue Yes’ pink room. ‘Picture Me Better’ – a song written about the loss of a friend – perfectly encapsulates heart wrenching grief and the hope to hear the impossible “call from beyond”. A song that inspired me to pour my own grief into our song ‘One More Day’.

Burial – Untrue
I vividly remember the first time I stumbled upon this album while exploring a friend’s CD collection. It was a revelation – nothing I had ever heard compared to its dark, gritty sound, interwoven with ethereal melodies and harmony. So melancholic. I often listened to it on my bike rides home through the city centre at 5am, after finishing my shift at a nightclub; feeling as though I was the only soul awake in the world. It’s perfect for those late nights when you’re caught between the desire to drift off and the inability to do so. The sampling on this album is incredible; the original sources are so cleverly transformed that I found myself spending hours online trying to uncover their origins. It’s a remarkable masterclass in genre-bending and structure, carving out its own distinct niche within the electronic scene. Its sound remains refreshingly futuristic, even today.

Pixies – Doolittle 
All amazing tracks and completely seminal. I became obsessed with Pixies when I was fifteen, after loading up my mp3 player for a school trip to Sorrento. I’d heard that Nirvana’s loud-quiet-loud structures were ripping off Pixies, so I downloaded some songs from Limewire. Listening to them on a coach driving along the West coast of Italy really cemented the tracks for me and I was kind of blown away by it. The guitar work is just perfect to me – simple driving bass lines, and Joey’s surf inspired riffs and bends are just amazing. The range of sounds in Frank’s voice means the album never gets boring and it contrasts with Kim’s vocals so well. To top it off, ‘Gouge Away’ is just the best final track on an album for me.

The Smashing Pumpkins – Siamese Dream
My favourite album changes constantly, but if I had to choose one right now I’d pick Siamese Dream. My first introduction to Smashing Pumpkins was at about seven or eight years old hearing them on The Simpsons episode ‘Homerpalooza’. A few years later when I hit my full-on emo phase I delved into their back catalogue and Siamese Dream was the album that stuck out to me. I’ve never got sick of listening to it. Billy and James’ guitar playing on this record is just insane to me. The dynamics of the album too are just so great, the fact you’ve got heavy songs like ‘Geek USA’ but the softer songs like ‘Luna’ and ‘Disarm’ but they work perfectly together when listening to the album in full. Billy’s lyrics as well – “Fool enough to almost be it, cool enough to not quite see it. Doomed.” on ‘Mayonaise’, incredible. Whenever I’m writing new music I find this is the album I reference the most.

Big Thief – Two Hands
This is such a beautiful album – the lyrics are so raw and heartfelt – it’s such incredible story telling. The album flows from really soft gentle tracks to heavy gritty ones so effortlessly, and everything about the way it’s recorded sounds so natural. It came out when I first got back into playing music after a really long break and I would just listen to it on repeat. The whole album reminds me of a time when I really started to feel comfortable with myself and listening to it still reminds me of that. Seeing them live at the Apollo last year was an awesome experience!

Huge thanks to Umarells for sharing their five favourites with us! Watch the beautiful new video for stirring single ‘June’ here:

One More Day, the debut album from Umarells, is out now via Fear Of Missing Out Records.

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Five Favourites: Zombina and the Skeletones

Having initially blasted onto the Liverpool scene back in 1998, local ‘horror-rockers’ Zombina and the Skeletones have previously wowed audiences with their eccentric energy and intoxicating fusion of sounds supporting the likes of Shonen Knife, The Damned and Misfits. Now, having officially come out of retirement last year, the band have just released their first full-length album in ten years, The Call Of Zombina. Interweaving an eclectic array of sounds, from uptempo garage-punk and girl group pop leanings, to haunting baroque-inspired goth-rock and a swirling punk energy, the album offers a fierce return to form from the Merseryside legends; an exquisite, immersive cacophony that’s not for the faint-hearted. 

We think one of the best ways to get to know a band is by asking what music inspires them. So, following the album’s release, we spoke to Zombina and Dr Horror from ZATS about some of the albums that have influenced them the most. Have a read, and then watch the video for immense new single ‘Don’t Kick My Coffin‘ below, before listening to the full new album in all its glory. 

Zombina’s Picks:

Cocteau Twins – Heaven Or Las Vegas
This is a weird one for me, because I’m not a huge album listener. I’ve always been into bands and artists, and songs in a standalone sense, but poverty and ADHD impatience have always had me flitting around mixtapes and ‘Best Of’ compilations. I’d never have described Cocteau Twins sound as my main kind of thing, but yet I’ve returned to this record again and again and again over the years. It’s been the soundtrack for more scenes in my life’s journey than I can believe: it’s been playing whilst I’m de-cluttering, breastfeeding through the night, working out, reading my bestie’s tarot, shopping, grieving a loss, fucking OR making love (two very different things, and it works for both for me, which is no mean feat!), walking to job interviews, hungover in the tour bus, the list goes on… I genuinely listen to it several times a week. I’m Neurodivergent and I recognise this is one of my top comfort albums. The two times I have managed to write and record music as a solo project, I have only been able to eschew writer’s block by taking a “Cocteau Twins approach” to lyrics, and just letting word sounds tumble out ad-hoc. As someone who has spent a lifetime singing lyrics I rate super highly, written by my best friend, I really think was the only way I could have got past the inner critic to explore the musicality I was trying to access, and I credit this album for that.

Roky Erikson – The Evil One
I don’t remember how soon into our BFF-ship Doc Horror and I started listening to this… Oh shit, wait, yes I do – it must have been almost right away aged fifteen and sixteen, because we recorded a cover of ‘I Walked With A Zombie’ from this album on our home 4-track for the very first Zombina and the Skeletones demo! I’ve still never watched the film about Roky. I think it would upset me too much. I’m a real sucker for the under-dog, people that have struggled and suffered injustices, especially surrounding mental health. I was already floundering my way into the mental healthcare system myself by fifteen. I remember hearing about Roky’s story, and it was never extricable from how I felt listening to his music. I heard the deepest pain and the most jubilant perseverance in his voice; I held on to the thought that he had come out the other side of a dark and brutal life chapter, and still had this creative passion bursting out of him, and sounding so fucking GOOD! He was also someone who had paved the way before us. We were teenage horror movie fanatics, trying to form a band around that shared passion, and then we discover this guy and the genre he named himself – Horror Rock! I was planning to choose my top five tracks from the album, but it’s too hard. Just listen to it. Many times. Let it permeate you like it has me. I implore you!!!

Doc Horror’s Picks:

The B-52’s – The B-52’s
Zombina introduced me to the B-52’s via Cosmic Thing back when we were in school, and that was revelatory enough, but their self-titled debut turned out to really be where it’s at for me. For our generation B-52’s meant ‘Love Shack’ and ‘Rocko’s Modern Life’ and, like, ‘The Flintstones Theme’, not that there’s nothing wrong with that, obviously – but this album is something else entirely. We found it on cassette in a charity shop sometime in the late ’90s and I couldn’t believe how punk-rock this thing is. It’s got this sort of proto-Riot Rrrrl quality to it, but somehow also sounds like flying saucers coming over the horizon. They’ve somehow got way more depth than they get credited for, but are also exactly as silly as they seem. Cindy Wilson’s vocal on ‘Hero Worship’ is possibly the best vocal on anything ever! We caught them live in Manchester years later when they did Funplex and they were still phenomenal. Experiences like that are great training for staving off the I’M GETTING TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT feeling that can come twenty odd years into being a band. Fun is fun, no matter who you are. Everybody goes to parties!

45 Grave – Sleep In Safety
I remember coming across this LP when Zombina and the Skeletones was very new, and seeing that amazing band photo on the back cover and immediately finding new role models in 45 Grave before I even heard their music. I purchased it at the next opportunity and found myself utterly baffled by the music on first listen. From what I’ve heard, it seems like I’m not alone in that. A lot of people find Sleep In Safety quite difficult to get into, but you have to stick with it!  Once you get past the tonal whiplash of the whole “oh it’s a sort of dark prog record… no wait it’s hardcore punk… oh what’s this surf instrumental doing here?” experience, it’s actually incredibly rewarding – and very much ended up as a template for what we do, in a lot of ways. It was like suddenly being given a license to disregard the constraints of genre. And then you get to the chorus in ‘Partytime’ and realise that this was the song that seemed to be coming out of that skeleton’s mouth in that one scene in The Return Of The Living Dead – the movie that you and Zombina watched alongside The Rocky Horror Picture Show a few months back and that’s what inspired you to start a spooky band in the first place -, and it’s all come full circle… But you never would have guessed that it was the same band because the chorus from ‘Partytime’ sounds like some AC/DC pastiche. Again… baffling. A couple of years later, one of our first European shows was opening for Dinah Cancer’s post-45 Grave band Penis Flytrap. She turned out to be really nice. Not nearly as scary as you’d think. Whenever I put on Sleep In Safety, I find myself transported to ZATS year one and I’m filled with the excitement of future possibilities. It’s still a weird listen even now. Our track ‘Dead Birds’ on The Call Of Zombina is a bit of a love letter to this sound.

Girls At Our Best – Pleasure
I don’t really ever discover new current music. Instead, my version of that seems to be stumbling across things from the eighties that are at least new to me – often from bands like Girls At Our Best, who split up around the time I was born. I have no clue how Pleasure even ended up on my radar. It seemed to just appear in my life a couple of years ago without me really noticing and I just kept finding the various tracks stuck in my head and before long I was just binging it daily and playing it to people, like “check this out…”. I’m not sure if I’ve successfully converted any fans yet. I ended up listening to it constantly while writing The Call Of Zombina but if you were to play to our record side by side with this one you probably wouldn’t make any connection between the two. Pleasure is all major key sunshine and The Call Of Zombina is more like a night in Dracula’s castle… But it was very subtly informed by Pleasure on some subliminal level. It’s just great. Every song has about 20 legitimate hooks apiece, loads of inventiveness, earworms and strange instrumental choices. You have to wonder who they were and what happened to them. They made this one excellent album then fucked off.

Huge thanks to Zombina and Doc Horror for sharing their Five Favourites with us! Watch the new video for ‘Don’t Kick My Coffin’ below:

The Call Of Zombina, the brand new album from Zombina and the Skeletones, is out now via 9×9 Records. Buy it now.

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EP: Piney Gir – Cosmic Upside Down

With some twenty years’ experience in music, Piney Gir has earned a reputation as something of a go-to in the world of indie – there’s been collaborations and support slots with pretty much everyone, from big names like Ride, Gaz Coomes and Noel Gallagher to less-heralded indie acts such as The Hidden Cameras and Sweet Baboo. Wikipedia also notes that Piney – who was born in Kansas, but is now based in London – is also a journalist, cookbook author, and puppeteer. If that’s not enough to be going on with, Piney’s interest in witchcraft has led her to recently produce a trilogy of EPs. Starting with 2021’s mini space odyssey Astral Spectra and continued with the indie pop-magick exploration of Alchemy Hand in 2022, now latest release Cosmic Upside Down furthers her previous releases’ combination of twanging guitar stylings, deceptively simple lilts and Gir’s trademark honeyed vocals.

Opener ‘Show Me The Lightning’ has that guitar ringing right up front, while its lyrics speak of the magical excitement of heavy weather. As the track swells into its chorus, synths are introduced, which then swirl throughout, taking us further into the ethereal storm. Following this, the EP’s title track is a tale of tarot, with its title (and lyrics) discussing the ‘uncertainty’ of the cards’ meanings – especially when they are drawn inverted. The Cups “lead the way” but The Moon, despite its light, is still the most ambiguous. The Ace of Wands comes “out of the blue”, just like the flurry of sax that precedes it; threatening to take the track in another direction, before arpeggiated keyboard brings us back to the shuffle-and-draw process.

Switching themes, the lyrics of ‘What Have We Done for Nature?’ discuss climate change, with its keyboard-led backing evoking Jane Weaver, and elements of its percussion drawing from both White Album Beatles and ‘60s girl group rhythms.  This is no polemic (which doesn’t seem Piney’s style), more a holistic consideration of what nature gives us, compared to what we give back. Not much seems to be the conclusion.  

Closer ‘Witches & Covens’ is, musically, the gentlest track on the EP, but returns to the themes of uncertainty found in Cosmic Upside Down. Devotion here, much like for the subjects in its title, is a given, even when the subject of the song “twists” the narrator’s “melon”. Happy Mondays are just one of a few nods to other artists here, with a lift from Elvis’ ‘Blue Suede Shoes’ also featuring prominently. With the further reference to “stars align[ing] in East LA”, the whole feels like the tale of a well-versed musician grappling with the other-worldly, and the all-too-worldy – perhaps not coincidental, given Piney’s bio to date.

With an impressive degree of sonic density, as the musical experience of Piney and her backing band would suggest, these four intriguing songs draw the listener in to return and immerse themselves fully in the EP’s swirling majestic allure. It’s rather like the repetition of a witchy incantation, or laying out a spread of cards, you might say. A fascinating addition to an already decades-long career, Cosmic Upside Down suggests that Piney Gir will have us under her spell for some time to come.

Cosmic Upside Down, the new EP from Piney Gir, is out now via No Distance Records. The EP was produced and mixed by Tomas Greenhalf at Direktorenhaus and mastered by Kevin Tuffy at Manmade Mastering.

John McGovern
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